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On the basis of this assumption — that the Shpoler Zeide and R' Leib Saras were one — the Rebbe explained why the Shpoler Zeide's niggun (melody) was sung on Shevi'i shel Pesach. He added, however, that if it were to be established that they were two separate individuals, it is possible the melody was chosen for its content rather than for its author.<ref>Sichos Kodesh 5730, vol. 2, [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=4602&st=הסבא&pgnum=120 p. 99].</ref>

Accordingly, some maintain that R' Leib Saras and the Shpoler Zeide were indeed two different people, citing multiple sources pointing to two separate graves in two separate locations.<ref>The Zeide is buried in Shpola; see ''Ish HaPele'', Menashe Miller, vol. 1, p. 132. R' Leib is buried in

Accordingly, some maintain that R' Leib Saras and the Shpoler Zeide were indeed two different people, citing multiple sources pointing to two separate graves in two separate locations.<ref>The Zeide is buried in Shpola; see ''Ish HaPele'', Menashe Miller, vol. 1, p. 132. R' Leib is buried in Bialystok.</ref>

Reliable accounts also describe the families of both tzaddikim, from which it emerges that while they belonged to the same broader family, they were in fact two distinct individuals — cousins.<ref>In the journal ''Beis Aharon V'Yisrael'', no. 119, in remarks by Rabbi Shaul Yissachar Bik, av beis din of Mezhybizh and Mahaliv, transmitted in the name of his father-in-law Rabbi Shalom Perlov of Koidanov-Braihin, cited in a letter by R' Chaim Golbsky.</ref>

The fact that entirely separate, unrelated families trace their lineage to each of the two tzaddikim separately has likewise been cited as evidence that they were two different people.<ref>[http://toladot.blogspot.co.il/2010/08/blog-post_25.html Research on the subject at the Toldos V'Shorashim website].</ref>

Some Chassidim have suggested a resolution: that the root of their souls was certainly one, and it was in this sense that the Rebbe said they were one — even if in terms of their physical persons they may have been two separate individuals.<ref>In the name of Rabbi [[Yoel Kahn]].</ref>

== His Dispute with [[Rabbi Nachman of Breslov]] ==

In the year 5560 (1800), Rabbi Nachman of Breslov arrived in Zlatopolia and began to serve there formally as an Admor (Chassidic leader). As his distinctive path became known, the Shpoler Zeide came out in opposition to it, and as a result of the dispute, Rabbi Nachman was compelled to leave.

== See Also ==

* [[Leib Saras]]

* [[Kol BaYaar niggun]] — the Shpoler Zeide would sing this melody before the Shema recited at bedtime or before Tikkun Chatzos

* [[Hop Kozak niggun]] — a melody originating with the Shpoler Zeide

== External Links ==

* [http://www.teshura.com/teshurapdf/Stambler-%20Adar2,%2011,%205765.pdf An anthology of Chabad Rebbe teachings and Chassidic stories connected to the Shpoler Zeide]

* Rabbi Moshe Levi Yitzchak Laufer, '''[http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/kitveyet/pardes/pardes19-s2.pdf The Life of the Shpoler Zeide in Light of Chabad Chassidic Writings]''', Pardes Chabad, issue 19, p. 297.

* [https://chabad.info/news/123336/ The Annual Gathering of the Shpoler Zeide's Descendants in Kfar Chabad]

== Notes ==

[[Category:Disciples of the Baal Shem Tov]]

[[Category:Disciples of the Maggid of Mezeritch]]

[[he:הסבא משפולי]]

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 On the basis of this assumption — that the Shpoler Zeide and R' Leib Saras were one — the Rebbe explained why the Shpoler Zeide's niggun (melody) was sung on Shevi'i shel Pesach. He added, however, that if it were to be established that they were two separate individuals, it is possible the melody was chosen for its content rather than for its author.<ref>Sichos Kodesh 5730, vol. 2, [http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=4602&st=הסבא&pgnum=120 p. 99].</ref>
-Accordingly, some maintain that R' Leib Saras and the Shpoler Zeide were indeed two different people, citing multiple sources pointing to two separate graves in two separate locations.<ref>The Zeide is buried in Shpola; see ''Ish HaPele'', Menashe Miller, vol. 1, p. 132. R' Leib is buried in
+Accordingly, some maintain that R' Leib Saras and the Shpoler Zeide were indeed two different people, citing multiple sources pointing to two separate graves in two separate locations.<ref>The Zeide is buried in Shpola; see ''Ish HaPele'', Menashe Miller, vol. 1, p. 132. R' Leib is buried in Bialystok.</ref>
+Reliable accounts also describe the families of both tzaddikim, from which it emerges that while they belonged to the same broader family, they were in fact two distinct individuals — cousins.<ref>In the journal ''Beis Aharon V'Yisrael'', no. 119, in remarks by Rabbi Shaul Yissachar Bik, av beis din of Mezhybizh and Mahaliv, transmitted in the name of his father-in-law Rabbi Shalom Perlov of Koidanov-Braihin, cited in a letter by R' Chaim Golbsky.</ref>
+The fact that entirely separate, unrelated families trace their lineage to each of the two tzaddikim separately has likewise been cited as evidence that they were two different people.<ref>[http://toladot.blogspot.co.il/2010/08/blog-post_25.html Research on the subject at the Toldos V'Shorashim website].</ref>
+Some Chassidim have suggested a resolution: that the root of their souls was certainly one, and it was in this sense that the Rebbe said they were one — even if in terms of their physical persons they may have been two separate individuals.<ref>In the name of Rabbi [[Yoel Kahn]].</ref>
+== His Dispute with [[Rabbi Nachman of Breslov]] ==
+In the year 5560 (1800), Rabbi Nachman of Breslov arrived in Zlatopolia and began to serve there formally as an Admor (Chassidic leader). As his distinctive path became known, the Shpoler Zeide came out in opposition to it, and as a result of the dispute, Rabbi Nachman was compelled to leave.
+== See Also ==
+* [[Leib Saras]]
+* [[Kol BaYaar niggun]] — the Shpoler Zeide would sing this melody before the Shema recited at bedtime or before Tikkun Chatzos
+* [[Hop Kozak niggun]] — a melody originating with the Shpoler Zeide
+== External Links ==
+* [http://www.teshura.com/teshurapdf/Stambler-%20Adar2,%2011,%205765.pdf An anthology of Chabad Rebbe teachings and Chassidic stories connected to the Shpoler Zeide]
+* Rabbi Moshe Levi Yitzchak Laufer, '''[http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/kitveyet/pardes/pardes19-s2.pdf The Life of the Shpoler Zeide in Light of Chabad Chassidic Writings]''', Pardes Chabad, issue 19, p. 297.
+* [https://chabad.info/news/123336/ The Annual Gathering of the Shpoler Zeide's Descendants in Kfar Chabad]
+== Notes ==
+<references/>
+[[Category:Disciples of the Baal Shem Tov]]
+[[Category:Disciples of the Maggid of Mezeritch]]
+[[he:הסבא משפולי]]